Wednesday, December 3, 1834
1834
December
Wednesday 3
7 20/..
12
No kiss. Finish morning, Fahrenheit 47° at 8 50/.. a.m., at
which hour, went down to breakfast –
My letter to ‘Major
Norcliffe, Langton Hall, Malton’ went
by the bag before breakfast this morning.
Read the newspaper – Sir
Robert Peel not arrived – He to be premier, and not the Duke of Wellington –
Washington came – Paid him
for last Saturday’s pit sinking and mine driving bills, and ordered all Mr.
Samuel Hall’s property etc. up to the town of Southowram to be put into the
plan – Ordered Shibden dale, but he said the town’s plan of the township of
Northowram was lost 2 or 3 years ago – Taken somewhere to a distance on some
occasion and never forthcoming since –
Then 1/2 hour making notes
from Palmer’s report till just setting off to Halifax when Mr. Samuel
Freeman came (at 10 50/.. by the Halifax castle clock and 11 5/.. by our hall clock)
– He thought he had a minute or 2 just to see me before going to the meeting –
I proposed our going together – He rode – but walked down the old bank and we
part[ed] at the churchyard steps, fancying to arrive at the office about the
same time, but I was in, and seated close to and on the right of Mr.
Waterhouse, Treasurer and Chairman, 2 or 3 minutes before Freeman arrived –
The room seemed full – There might be about or nearly 50 – Mr. Waterhouse
wished I had come 1/2 hour earlier (I was there at 10 55/.. by the castle
clock) –
Mr. Norris, (William)
immediately began reading Mr. Bull’s report, which took up 38 minutes, explanatory
of Palmer’s report and shewing the differences of cost and advantage, single
locks, and double and parallel locks to act as side ponds – single and double
towings paths – 60 foot breadth of top water-line, or 50 ditto ditto etc. etc.
–
A few questions were asked
during the reading, chiefly by Mr. John Hodgson, who was for some time the
principal speaker – and against Palmer’s plan, and for single locks etc.
etc., all that was cheapest –
A Mr. Oldham, a Quaker of
Leeds, a large fat man chiefly opposed him, neither of them master of their
subject, though the former is of the committee, but Oldham talked and put his
questions sensibly –
All soon began to talk at
once, and the chairman begged one to speak at a time – It seemed as if all had
come to the meeting without any previous acquaintance with the subject of it,
and many seemed inclined to be guided by the committee, of whom (one at
least of the sitters at the table) Messers John Hodgson and Rawdon and William
Briggs were against the liberal scale of improvement and Mr.
Waterhouse, though for it, yet being chairman, expressed no opinion, and
Mr. Joseph Hodgson, though also for it, did not advocate the cause by words –
At last it was thought best,
that the Chairman should propose the resolutions drawn up by the committee – The
pith of the 1st was, should the new part of
the canal be 50 or 60 feet broad – 50 carried by shew of hands about
13 to 11 –
It was said by someone, that
, according to act of Parliament, we had a right to ascertain whether the
majority was against us in number of shares – but we did not press this, and
let the vote go against us –
The difference of the cost
was estimated at £2,000 – I said to my neighbour I was sorry to see us begin
to garble Palmer’s plan – Why consult a 1st-rate engineer unless we had so far
a good opinion of him as to be guided by him – We were not engineers – Why not
take his advice to do as little in the best manner possible and make one means
measure the quantity rather than the quality – But my neighbour, I did not
know him, said he acted for others and must be careful – My next neighbour
but one, a Mr. Wetherhard, was of my opinion and said a few words aloud,
nearly what I had just whispered –
Freeman had held up his hand against
us, and his neighbour Mr. Clay of Rastrick –
A great deal of talking
ensued from individual and individual – Nobody seeming knowing what to do till
Mr. Rawdon Briggs, begged the Chairman to read the 2nd resolution, that Double and parallel locks 72 feet by 18 feet to
act as side ponds be adopted, with the amendment proposed by Mr. Rawdon
Briggs that single locks, similar to those we have, be adopted – Mr. John
Hodgson seconded him –
Now ensued a Babel mode of
discussion, Mr. John Hodgson calling the engineer, Mr. Bull, to account for stating
in his report that double locks would save compensation to mill owners, he,
Mr. John Hodgson, contending that no compensation could be due – Cook and . . .
. of Horbury Soke Mill, belonging to the executors of the Pilkingtons, let with
several other buildings etc. but called at the nominal rent of £100 per annum –
Mr. Bull not a man of eloquence – Mr. James Norris, our attorney, did not much
defend him, and John Hodgson seemed to gain the wordy battle –
Mr. William Briggs spoke
far the best, seeming to understand
his subject better than the rest, but ran on with a comparison between double
(saying nothing of double and parallel) and single locks, shewing that
the committee, not having sufficiently understood Mr. Bull, had stultified
themselves in one of their resolutions and that, as for expedition, so much
insisted on, so far from attaining it, there would be more delay in passing
double than single locks – Yes! said Mr. Bull, but not with double and
parallel locks –
The meeting seemed utterly at
a loss to what opinion to come –
Then came a long desultory
conversation chiefly sustained by Messers Briggs as to the lengths of the pools
– And it was doubted which resolution should be put 1st – that
respecting the locks, or that respecting the pools –
Mr. William Briggs strongly recommended
following the natural rise of the valley and making the falls of the locks
and the lengths of the pools vary accordingly, urging that it was easier to
dig a canal than to build one, for that if we equalized the falls of the locks
and lengths of the pools instead of sinking, we should at one end have to
raise, or build up our canal, which would of course, be more expensive,
would it not Mr. Bull? than sinking – Yes! was the answer Mr. Bull, only that he
had written an answer to these anticipated objections which he handed to
William Briggs and myself, but nobody inclined to read –
At length it was agreed to drop
the pools for that the decision about the locks would decide sufficiently about
the pools –
I had in the meantime
opened my mouth again and, turning to
the Messers Briggs, said audibly that parsimony was not always economy, and
that I feared they were in this case advocating the former and not the latter –
Mr. Palmer was a man of great ability and credit, and I could not help agreeing with him, that
whatever we did should be done in the best manner possible and that the
quantity, not the quality of our work should be limited by our means –
Mr. Rawdon Briggs replied
he did not think all this expense
necessary – The trade did not require it and never would – Do you then , said I, mean to limit the
progress of improvement? We know what is
at present – You are doubtless right as to that – but which among us dares
venture to say he knows what will be?
Mr. Clay, like Mr. William
Briggs and Mr. John Hodgson, had
contended that this was a question of profit and
loss – Mr. Freeman had said this
would never answer unless an opening was made with the Mersey; but I
saw that I had called the attention of the meeting, and my fat friend Mr.
Oldham seemed well satisfied –
It was agreed to put it to
the vote whether there should be double and
parallel locks to act as side ponds (dimensions left to the committee but
not to be less than 70 feet by 16 feet and to be 72 X 18 if this could be
managed on account of millowners) or Single locks – The shew of hands was in
our favor (for the former) – Mr. Rawdon Briggs demanded a scrutiny
– on which the Chairman and Clerk (Mr. William Norris) and the committee
retired to ascertain which side had, by number of shares, the voters on each
side having signed paper.
The chairman and other
necessary gentlemen must have been absent about or above 1/2 hour – In the meanwhile,
the whole meeting divided into sets of 2 or 3, all in earnest conversation –
Mr. Freeman came up to me
and explained that he had voted
against me (for 50 feet instead of 60 breadth.
Waterhouse voted with us for the double locks) because Mr. Clay told him
the Aire and Calder proprietors present were all for leading us into expense to
serve their own ends – I explained that I thought not of the Aire and
Calder – I thought only of ourselves – Why not do a job well or let it alone
– People must do work thoroughly well
nowadays, or it would not do – If they meant to garble Palmer’s plan in detail
in this way, for plans of their own, I wished they let the navigation remain as
it is, and do nothing; and if this last plan was put to the vote, it should
have my support rather spend money for nothing – If were to spend £40 for an
indifferent job, would it not be better to spend £50,000 on a good one? – Freeman seemed rather staggered –
Mr. Kershaw and I had then
some talk about Northgate – He regretted I had not bought his property there –
I said I should if he had taken my offer at 1st – but I made up my mind quickly
and stuck to it – and that when his tardy change of mind came it was in fact
too late – I had already disposed of my resources –
Mr. William Briggs left the
committee, and very civilly expressed his sorrow at having me for an opponent –
Said (as John Hodgson had also said) the anticipated coal trade would not pay –
Our chief trade was corn, and Wakefield was the mart, but this had gone down
much of late years and would go down as Ireland improved – The Steam
communication with Ireland brought corn to Liverpool cheaper than we could
grow it – This was evidenced by whenever there was a bad harvest in
Ireland, the corn market was better at Wakefield and our navigation made more –
And did I not think Ireland would go on improving and furnish more and more
corn?
I was just going to reply,
saying I did not quite agree with him about Ireland (meaning that poor laws,
their improvised manner of living and consumption of their corn etc. would equalize
them rather more with us) when the chairman and committee returned saying that we
had a majority – There was a majority of 58 for the double and parallel locks –
for Single locks votes of persons present 176. for double (present)
188. Each of the committee had 20
proxies – The chairman just whispered to me that they had not entered my proxy
for Ann (because I ought to have brought a written form of proxy) but that it
was not wanted as we had a majority of 58 –
This question of locks
decided, all the rest was voted left to the discretion of the committee, save
that a power to borrow £50,000 at 4 per cent was voted – The act of Parliament
only allows us to borrow £60,000 – There is already a debt of £23,000 upon
the navigation –
Mr. Rawdon Briggs said Mr.
Norris (William), as an officer of the Company had no right to vote – It was
proved that by act of Parliament he had no right to be, he could not be, on the
Committee, nor could any officer of the Company, but that he did not lose his
right to vote as a proprietor – He said that he had voted for double locks
because of the trouble it would save with the millowners, but that he would
withdraw his vote if the meeting thought proper, but this was of course not
sanctioned –
It had been shewn or owned by
Messers John Hodgson and William Briggs that Cooke and (Watson?) of Horbury
mill could stop the canal any time – Mr. William Henry Rawson said, in his
usual sneering manner, we had better empower the Committee to borrow £60,000 at
once; for they would want it – Of course, he was against double locks –
Not a soul there could know
my opinions when I entered the room – Of course my going will be talked of – Cela
ne m’émporte pas beaucoup – If such be public meetings here in general, there
is sad want of some mastermind to lead the multitude –
As the Committee was divided
like a house again itself, why had not each party a champion really armed in
his cause de cap à pied, to state and defend his cause? Or why had not each
side an independent Engineer to conduct the arguments for him ? We treated a great concern like a little
one, and prated like a parcel of children – There was a large plan (of the
canal and proposed improvements) on the table which nobody understood ! –
I came away as soon as the
money was voted. Had been there from
10 55/.. to 3 53/.. by my watch, 35 minutes too late by the castle clock,
now the best regulated one in the town, the town’s economy having employed at a
low salary a man from Sowerby to take care of the old church clock so that it
is nearly useless as a measure of time –so that I was at the meeting from 11
1/2 to 4 32/.. it having begun at 11 –
Called at Whitleys and paid
for Turner’s Chemistry and Gotha Almanac – Called also at Greenwoods about sofa
fringe – and home (by the old bank) at 5 1/4 – Some time with Ann. Gave her a true account of the meeting
– then with my father and Marian and merely said we had gone on very well, having
voted the improvements – Then with my aunt a little while –
Dinner at 6 – Coffee – Lost 1
hit and 1 gammon and won 1 hit – Wrote the 1st 12 lines of journal of today –
1/4 hour with my aunt –
Then an hour tête-à-tête with
Marian till 10 1/4 – to tell her Mr.
Abbott was there and had come up to speak to me, which I thought bad tact, that
I spoke civilly but distantly and turned away. I thought she had better tell him she had
told me of this queer business of hers and tell him what I had said and
what I should do and the real state of the case about the property. She said when she had once made up her mind,
she was not likely to change and the thing had been too long thought of for
her to give it up. I said that I
hoped she would take care to have the settlements properly made and to see that
he really had what she expected, that as she was to live in the town, the break
between had better be entire. Half
measures would be painful to both sides.
She was quite, she said, of my opinion, so it is understood and
agreed mutually to pass without speaking –
Sat talking to Ann and did
not come upstairs till 11 1/4 –
Damp, soft, disagreeable day,
though finish on the whole
Vide Thursday 4th instante
mense, top of next page, Mr. Sunderland sat a little while with Ann and me – Not
to be mentioned beyond ourselves, but Mr. Sunderland and our conservative party
will choose tenants as conservative as possible and as few dissenters as
possible – Pews lost in the churches, the right owners, by tenants being
dissenters – Pews go with places according to the custom of the country here,
if the name of any place is marked on them – Can now poll 300 for Wortley of
which 100 plumpers – Begged my compliments to the chairman of his committee and
thanks for his note, and to give my name for helping to pay expenses if
necessary –
WYAS Finding Numbers
SH:7/ML/E/17/0118, SH:7/ML/E/17/0119, and SH:7/ML/E/17/0120
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